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		<title>By: edReformer: Project Foundry</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-10375</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grateful and excited to guest-post on edReformer. Chad says that he wants to work on &#8220;what authentic learning and #edreform mean in a world increasingly discovered, mediated, presented, preserved, and affected [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] grateful and excited to guest-post on edReformer. Chad says that he wants to work on &#8220;what authentic learning and #edreform mean in a world increasingly discovered, mediated, presented, preserved, and affected [...]</p>
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		<title>By: edReformer: Project Foundry</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-10376</link>
		<dc:creator>edReformer: Project Foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grateful and excited to guest-post on edReformer. Chad says that he wants to work on &#8220;what authentic learning and #edreform mean in a world increasingly discovered, mediated, presented, preserved, and affected [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] grateful and excited to guest-post on edReformer. Chad says that he wants to work on &#8220;what authentic learning and #edreform mean in a world increasingly discovered, mediated, presented, preserved, and affected [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Project Foundry</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-8932</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Foundry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] grateful and excited to guest-post on edReformer. Chad says that he wants to work on &#8220;what authentic learning and #edreform mean in a world increasingly discovered, mediated, presented, preserved, and affected [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] grateful and excited to guest-post on edReformer. Chad says that he wants to work on &#8220;what authentic learning and #edreform mean in a world increasingly discovered, mediated, presented, preserved, and affected [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Can&#8217;t My Kids&#8217; Writing Be Proof They Can Write? &#171; Cooperative Catalyst</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Can&#8217;t My Kids&#8217; Writing Be Proof They Can Write? &#171; Cooperative Catalyst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 19:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] understandings of authentic learning and assessment for a while now, through conversations at Authentic Engagement and Engagement and Quality Work and we even created a wiki to hopefully continue the conversation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] understandings of authentic learning and assessment for a while now, through conversations at Authentic Engagement and Engagement and Quality Work and we even created a wiki to hopefully continue the conversation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What I Did on My Summer Vacation &#124; Reflections of the TZSTeacher</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>What I Did on My Summer Vacation &#124; Reflections of the TZSTeacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] @classroots blog and the accompanying wiki he and I began to join a conversation about authentic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonita, Paula&#039;s thinking, like yours, about product/process has helped us better understand how to be more authentic in designing both.  Thank you!

I think designing authentic work helps drive teachers&#039; planning for learning with the qualities of authentic engagement.  However, students can definitely be authentically engaged with learning that&#039;s personally meaningful to them even when its not published outside the classroom.

Again, thanks for your comment and for joing the conversation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonita, Paula&#8217;s thinking, like yours, about product/process has helped us better understand how to be more authentic in designing both.  Thank you!</p>
<p>I think designing authentic work helps drive teachers&#8217; planning for learning with the qualities of authentic engagement.  However, students can definitely be authentically engaged with learning that&#8217;s personally meaningful to them even when its not published outside the classroom.</p>
<p>Again, thanks for your comment and for joing the conversation!</p>
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		<title>By: Bonita DeAmicis</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Bonita DeAmicis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 03:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting conversation.  I see the same thing as Paula, that there is a difference between the product and the engagement.  I would add that the discussion that Chad and Rob are having is a valuable one that should happen at all schools.  

I am thinking aloud here that engagement with process is a bit different than engagement with product, and that both are valuable types of engagement for producing learning. I am thinking that engagement can happen when it is self directed/chosen, but can also happen when it is not.  I am also a believer that if we describe engagement as &quot;authentic&quot; then we are talking about the truths of what it feels like, looks like, and sounds like to be engaged-interested-driven-curious and not about the authenticity of the task, which is a different thing, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting conversation.  I see the same thing as Paula, that there is a difference between the product and the engagement.  I would add that the discussion that Chad and Rob are having is a valuable one that should happen at all schools.  </p>
<p>I am thinking aloud here that engagement with process is a bit different than engagement with product, and that both are valuable types of engagement for producing learning. I am thinking that engagement can happen when it is self directed/chosen, but can also happen when it is not.  I am also a believer that if we describe engagement as &#8220;authentic&#8221; then we are talking about the truths of what it feels like, looks like, and sounds like to be engaged-interested-driven-curious and not about the authenticity of the task, which is a different thing, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Paula White</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-17</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve pasted the new checklist above and word-smithed it some on the wiki. . that&#039;s an easier place than here to do something like that.

http://authenicengagement.wikispaces.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve pasted the new checklist above and word-smithed it some on the wiki. . that&#8217;s an easier place than here to do something like that.</p>
<p><a href="http://authenicengagement.wikispaces.com" rel="nofollow">http://authenicengagement.wikispaces.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paula White</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Paula White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Beth, join us on the wiki as well. . . http://authenicengagement.wikispaces.com

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Beth, join us on the wiki as well. . . <a href="http://authenicengagement.wikispaces.com" rel="nofollow">http://authenicengagement.wikispaces.com</a></p>
<p> <img src='http://classroots.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary Beth Hertz</title>
		<link>http://classroots.org/authentic-engagement/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Beth Hertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad,

This looks to me like the start of a Charter School mission!  Or, as your post on The Edurati Review conveyed, should this be the mission of all schools?

While, as you mentioned, many &#039;rock star&#039; teachers already do this in their classrooms, it seems to me like AE should be the norm.  I agree with Rob (whose blog I love, by the way) that we often use the word &#039;engagement&#039; when we see students working or &#039;looking busy&#039; in a classroom.  The real way to find out the level of engagement, as people have been discussing, is to ask the children about what they are doing.

When trying to make a project or learning experience authentic, I think your point about sharing it outside of the classroom is an important one.  If you use the definition of &#039;authentic&#039; as meaning &#039;real,&#039; then how better to make a child&#039;s learning apply to the real world than to put it out there?  With the Internet, this is as simple as publishing a piece of work online. This can also be achieved through a student show after school or hosted at a local business or community center.

I agree with Paula that a student&#039;s work must be personally meaningful.  After all, authentic can also mean  &#039;true to one&#039;s own personality, spirit, or character.&#039;

I wonder what people&#039;s thoughts are on making EVERYTHING a student does in the classroom authentic engagement with learning (including memorizing times tables and learning letter sounds)?  

Thanks for starting this conversation, and I&#039;ll be looking for the #AE hashtag!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chad,</p>
<p>This looks to me like the start of a Charter School mission!  Or, as your post on The Edurati Review conveyed, should this be the mission of all schools?</p>
<p>While, as you mentioned, many &#8216;rock star&#8217; teachers already do this in their classrooms, it seems to me like AE should be the norm.  I agree with Rob (whose blog I love, by the way) that we often use the word &#8216;engagement&#8217; when we see students working or &#8216;looking busy&#8217; in a classroom.  The real way to find out the level of engagement, as people have been discussing, is to ask the children about what they are doing.</p>
<p>When trying to make a project or learning experience authentic, I think your point about sharing it outside of the classroom is an important one.  If you use the definition of &#8216;authentic&#8217; as meaning &#8216;real,&#8217; then how better to make a child&#8217;s learning apply to the real world than to put it out there?  With the Internet, this is as simple as publishing a piece of work online. This can also be achieved through a student show after school or hosted at a local business or community center.</p>
<p>I agree with Paula that a student&#8217;s work must be personally meaningful.  After all, authentic can also mean  &#8216;true to one&#8217;s own personality, spirit, or character.&#8217;</p>
<p>I wonder what people&#8217;s thoughts are on making EVERYTHING a student does in the classroom authentic engagement with learning (including memorizing times tables and learning letter sounds)?  </p>
<p>Thanks for starting this conversation, and I&#8217;ll be looking for the #AE hashtag!</p>
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